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PostSubject: Answered Questions!   November 13th 2015, 21:06

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Well...now soooo the answered questions can the tailed beast be split...YES!! there is evidence and three cases...

Evidence A:
Kaguya Princess and Demon fuses with the Tree Of Life giving the Tree basically form and for her to get stronger. Well sons seal her and the tree...while oldest son, Hagoromo splits the chakra HER'S from the the Tree that she basically absorbed. Now with this happening this proves that she perform a sealing technique or kinjutsu that forever fused her to the tree.

Now, after which she loses her Chakra that she obtained from the Chakra Fruit as it becomes Physical forms of Chakra or animals. This proves that chakra can be split from another's body and given form or taken form of something else. As long as they have a strong LIFE FORCE for Kaguya she and the Tree Of Life shared the Life Force, basically looking as the Tree of Life did take in the blood of those that fell in battle so its safe to say the Tree was the reason for Unlimited HP basically.

Evidence B:
Minato Fighting the Kyuubi (Kurama for those that have respect) Minato basically split the Physical Energies from the Spiritual Energies, but because they are still massive creatures with a large LIFE FORCE they basically could still take form. But they are split into two forms with possible weaker attributes OR having a weaker Chakra as they are split. But now looking at it you have to ask yourself, "WAIT if that is true how come Kurama/Kyuubi could make chakra if he did not have his Physical/Spiritual Energy as chakra is both those energies?" GOOD question and Answer for you!

We see that Kurama attacks with only a physical attack before being sealed, because he POSSIBLY could not mold chakra cause he lost the other half of his energy. But once sealed he was able to make up for that lost of energy by using his HOST's Spiritual/Physical Energy Ie. Naruto even so he could be seen as a generator for the Kyuubi/kurama as Naruto's mother said that the chakra from the tailed beast is still linked to the Child in a sense. Now with that being said...time the final GROUND breaking evidence...

Evidence C: Obito and Madara! During which Naruto strikes Obito with everyone pulling they still PULLED the chakra for the tailed beasts from the Body once again performing the seal as to what Hagoromo performed. NOW at first its like its already been done so it does not count. Well that sucks for us right...wrong... remember when Obito basically said, "Screwed my life up huh well don't worry I'll pay you back..." An basically ripped out the Ichibi and Hachibi's chakra to give to Naruto at the same time Kyuubi as well to help him. Well love to say it, that actually counts as another point of which the Chakra is again SPLIT from a physical/Spiritual point. As the chain later goes....


Tree of Life = Immortal HP and Chakra
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Kaguya Eats Fruit = Goddess of Chakra
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Kaguya Fuses with Tree of Life = Immortal Goddess of Chakra
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Kaguya's Chakra Split after being sealed = Immortal Goddess (Wrinkly old hag)
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Kaguya's Chakra returned but splits from Tree = Goddess/God of Chakra (Who ever fuses it all and basically splits from the tree)
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Kaguya's Host fuses with Tree of Life (where her mind is sealed into) = Immortal Goddess/God of Chakra UNTIL screwed over by her "Will"
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Kaguya Revived with Will fusing with the host and BOOM

There you go, so if anyone says anything about why is it not possible just remember this,

1. Hagoromo did it to his mother while sealed having her sealed within him basically.

2. Minato did it to Kurama sealing one half and sealing the other into his son.

3. Obito did it to Madara to save Naruto's life.

Now on that note that also means a Jinchuriki can actually SEAL more than once Bijuu within their body as because of the evidence It would just need to be a center point of where they are located. As Kaguya had them during the battle against Naruto and Sasuke, Madara Vs Obito and Obito Vs the freedom fighters as I like to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 13th 2015, 21:24

Reading over this...I have to say that it does make sense as to how they were able to split then the line graph showing everything I actually will approve of this. I would counter and say this though.

The three Obito, Madara and even Hagoromo also used the power of sage in order to do these things however Minato was not a sage and did soo that leaves me to believe one possible reason.

This is a trade of LIFE and DEATH meanings, So in order to even perform a feat this possible one's LIFE as to be on the line or the knowledge of the Outer Path or in Minato's case Shinigami's Sealing technique in order to have it be performed. Though other wise wonderful note and gathering of information. So I'll allow a split of Bijuus with the use of those two knowledges.

Now sealing of a Bijuu within a person again, I'll allow that but only a max of three. Because too many it may not be possible as they are not focused on a center point. SO if there is a way to do so then I would allow it for example, The Tree of Life is the house for the Tailed beast or Demonic Statue. But this will add another CONTROL to the player that does this. Remember this if and only IF it is done.


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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 13th 2015, 21:32

Perhaps I am being bias here but I approve of this method and its ability to allow it. both OOC and IC, i think it is reasonable. But how would you get those two knowleges, esp since the Reaper Death Seal is only 1 in exsistance and owned by another?


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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 13th 2015, 21:46

Also, on that note Grave since you did the research for it only you would be allowed this for the time being do not abuse it or I'll be sure to forbid the idea and have this never be allowed under any ruling.


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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 13th 2015, 21:48

The only way thus far is Reaper Death Seal can be learned but not by a Jinchuriki which means someone that's not a jinchuriki can learn it and teach it to someone else and so on. Outer Path can only be obtain by one with the Rinnegan.
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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 13th 2015, 22:03

I just want to state cause with Grave's permission here, I do want to have a tailed beast, and with permissions from other parties, we can and could split a Bijuu to share it. Omni, I understand your concern and never desire to abuse this. Though I had spoken to one of the members who has a bijuu I wanted and if he is willing to share, Id like to use this method to share it.

I will abide by any ICC and OOC rule needed to do so. It is just something I want to look into and possibly have if allowed. For that I thank Grave to his study for it.


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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 13th 2015, 22:11

If that's the case I would disallow it, BUT because of Grave and the studies. Grave's character will have to unlock the knowledge that he has shine the light on for us but only HE can give the IC information to others because of him truly posting up. Also this would be fair on him and to me because of the fact he wrote it out. The reason I say it this form and point of looking at it wise.

Grave and Heise are the only two Jinchuriki's So neither of them can learn the powers of the Shin fuin (reaper death seal)

However Hayabusa is a Uchiha and could obtain Rinnegan at some point. Even with Grave's character Tsukiyomi he cannot do any Character to Character trade because that is not allowed.

Heise is teamed up with Hayabusa so it would still increase the chance as well Hayabusa could learn the Shin Fuin.

As for you, Enjin you can also learn the Shin Fuin but if you were to obtain a bijuu you'd be unable to use later on so it would basically be erased from the knowledge as you cannot even teach anyone it. This is also another reason why I said only Grave could do this because he's actually at a big disadvantage on his end.

With Hayabusa and Heise on a team they basically have double the advantage

While you Enjin have an advantage

then Grave having be a Jin and not a Uchiha he's at a no advantage, even with Raijin as well. Though because of knowledge of him being stuck in the hospital.


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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 13th 2015, 22:49

if Grave participates to actually do the seal for me or i can use it , its fine. but im cool with one time use and forgetting it later. I am not a fan of seals except for a few certain uses I have in mind.

But yeah im willing to work with the others however it is done. If one party disagrees and says no, well I'll just have to live with that. But it is possible.


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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 14th 2015, 19:25

1- I am also a Jinnchuriki. Where have you guys been?

2- Not saying this is something I look to do, but it is unfair to have a 'I will allow this only for this person' stipulation. Especially because both Enjin and I have been pushing this idea for months, with the same evidence of it being used, just not typed out in a detailed way. And it was even Grave himself who told me it couldn't be done, so it made it seem unapproachable. Sooooo yea... Not complaining but is a little messed up (Nothing against you Grave).

3. You can't really use teaming up advantages and disadvantages for argumentative basis's. It's kind of reverse OOC knowledge for IC use. Firstly, it's not our fault Raijoku is no longer around. Secondly, for all you know, as far as me and Heise being 'teamed up', that doesn't mean its permanent. If any recalls, back when Heise lost faith in me (asshole), there were talks of betraying me in the mix. Sides can be switched. And the only reason Grave's not in the 'clique' is because his character is a traitorous bastard who has a pretty debt to pay xD

Long story short. The idea is nice and all. But, I draw the line as sole member benefit. We never allowed it before, and it shouldn't change. There should be nothing on this site that one member does that another couldn't potentially. That's just my opinion. A system should be made, as like with anything else with its own stipulations, requirements, and restrictions; ones that don't restrict to just a set member or group of.
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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 14th 2015, 19:31

I believe Haya, that Grave can empart this wisdom to us, but still he will be needed IC to give allowances and teach the method.


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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 14th 2015, 19:42

Still don't really agree with even that.

"Everyone is allowed to do it, but only one person IC knows how to do, and they must teach it."
^^^ That kind of stipulation should only be true in techniques and jutsu created by ones self. If he is going to make such a technique, fine. That's fair enough. But that shouldn't mean others couldn't do the same.
I asked if I could make a sealing technique such as. I was turned down.
I was also told, in presenting evidence a while back that an Uchiha without a sibling could use Susano'o (Uchiha Shisui & Obito), and I was told everything in the Manga after the point in which Juubi was revealed will be disregarded because things got too complex. So anything done could not be used as evidence. So this is kind of a blind side.
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PostSubject: Re: Answered Questions!   November 14th 2015, 23:19

I honestly believe I get a say in this as well...

1. I did say it was not possible to Haya and Enjin because of the data even that was presented at the time was complex cause of the final battle until I took my time to review all the chapters again to see why it seemed off to me but make sense of it.

2. I do agree with Hayabusa about the solo thing of the bijuu idea. Because of it this being an OOC this is only OOC knowledge. Though I already had techniques designed for the theory I did not wish to use them cause of personal reason as well because of the fear of damaging the site. The reason I brought this to the light was because of Enjin and Hayabusa's question about the splitting of the tailed beasts. Do I find it fair to split and create say double the amount, Yes because of the fact that A. More players have a chance with the powers and B. More chances to have challenges with Tailed beasts.

Now because of that I would say sure let's do the split up idea. However I truly care for the site and DONT wish for this because of options A. Splitting of the Tailed Beasts seems to be unnature and unfair because it would mean someone with powerful techniques that have captured them (Me for say) Splitting them apart and creating and controlling the tailed beasts in order to rage war and causing destruction onto the villages or countries. Even more so sealing half into one's body and the other half to run wild as expressed. Thus really I answered the questions really you guys would it be possible to do on the site and why it would be possible to do. As this is an OOC talk, Will it be allowed is completely up to Omnicron.

I do not wish to have it solely for myself nor do I find this way fair at all. But again that is completely up to everyone here. If it seems fair to have the raging beasts of the chakra under one's control for a limited time or just make a massive jinchuriki. Then go ahead and make it and go ahead and do this. However...remember then others will come and use your ideas and make this idea a living hell.

So on my behalf, Omni I would say that All three of us proved it possible but the call is completely up to you rather the tailed beast can be split into a set of YIN or YANG halves. My vote will sit at being being a "No" as a Member and Guru of the site.
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